Season 7, Episode 2: Messy, Muddy, and Blooming
June 4, 2026
Season 7, Episode 2: Messy, Muddy, and Blooming
Spring may bring flowers, but it also brings mud.
In Episode 2 of the Imperfect Advocate Podcast spring season, Karen explores the messy beauty of living systems through the work of author and systems thinker Margaret Wheatley.
From Vermont’s famous “mud season” to ecosystem diagrams that mysteriously leave humans out of the picture, this episode examines how modern life has conditioned us to see ourselves as separate from nature, from each other, and even from our own humanity.
Karen reflects on why we crave certainty, why disorder often signals growth rather than failure, and how systems thinking can help us reconnect with the living world around us.
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About Karen auld
Karen Auld is an environmentalist, writer, and podcast host who helps people move from overwhelm to action — imperfectly and with heart. On The Imperfect Advocate Podcast, she blends positive psychology, mindfulness, and environmental advocacy to show listeners how to lead with love, use their strengths, and fumble forward when the world feels heavy.
Karen is the co-author of Color Love and Kindness, a metta-inspired coloring book, and is currently pursuing a Master’s degree in Happiness and Overall Wellbeing.
Off-mic, she loves time in nature, trying new things, and watching Stranger Things with a cat on her lap.
